Colours on my Toronto headshot photography website show up funny. All other sites OK

Kurt Lang wrote:

Took a couple of minutes to find your site as the hosts removed your links.

They didn't remove all the links. There's one big one left. 😄

Now that I look at this image on my official Sequoia 15.3.2 machine (which Apple recently forced me to upgrade to - otherwise, I would still be on Ventura), I do see the colorspace problem. Curiously, I only see it on the MBP M1 2021 built-in display. When I move the window over to my old HP 24fw monitor, it looks correct.

You can see the difference really well with the magenta dude (taken with iPhone):

I think this is the same problem as described here: macOS Sequoia Bug - Preview misinterprets… - Apple Community

I don't think there is any problem with my display calibration. Both my displays are using the default. I tried changing the built-in display to something else, but all other profiles were much worse.

Supposedly, there is a new build of Sequoia coming out "real soon now". Perhaps the new build will fix this bug.

Took a couple of minutes to find your site as the hosts removed your links. That was normal, by the way, not targeted. It's against the forum rules to post any links to a person's own site that may result in compensation. For the obvious reason of not having the forums turn into a site overrun with "free" advertising.

But find it I did and the color looks good to me (on a monitor calibrated and profiled to D50). Per your note, I double checked to see if the images had sRGB profiles and not just saved out with sRGB as the color choice, but untagged. Of the half dozen I randomly looked at, they have profiles, so it's easy to assume the rest also do.

That is a constant in the computer world. You can properly calibrate and profile your monitor, but you can't do anything about the millions of monitor's out there that set to the truly awful 6500K blue, bright as a flashlight, obviously, green, pink, flat, massively over contrasted, or whatever else you can think of. All you can do is have it correct on your end.

I'm lost. I downloaded this from the site in question. Is this wrong?

I'll look again tomorrow when I'm on my Mac just to see if the color appears the same, or close. I'll be a bit surprised if it doesn't.

dialabrain wrote:

I'm lost. I downloaded this from the site in question. Is this wrong?

You can't see it with a single downloaded image. Images will appear differently depending on many factors.

Here's another iPhone view:

Here, you can see the difference. Same camera. Same website. Same image (well, kinda).

I don't see anything wrong with them. Natural skin tones on the headshot site, and slightly saturated color on the studio site.

But that could be because I'm viewing them on my iPad. The explanation being - are you saving your images with an embedded profile? If not, that would be one possible cause, depending on the browser in use.

Safari automatically displays any untagged image as sRGB to prevent just that kind of wild color shifting. If it didn't do that, the images on your site would stretch out to the profile space of my EIZO monitor, and everything would be wildly over saturated.

Beyond that, is your monitor properly calibrated and profiled? And I don't mean using the built-in Calibrate function, which is less than useless.

Kurt Lang wrote:

That is a constant in the computer world.

Indeed. It's one reason I don't fret much about images I create. I figure the only person that will see what I intended is me on my equipment.

It's a little like TV. The same show or ads on the same TV but on different channels will be different.

You can see the difference really well with the magenta dude (taken with iPhone):

According to the embedded camera data, the lens used was an EF100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM. So the shot was from a Canon DSLR.

Regardless, what you're seeing on the M1 is most definitely weird. What I see is the same as dialabrain's image.

Kurt Lang wrote:

Regardless, what you're seeing on the M1 is most definitely weird. What I see is the same as dialabrain's image.

I couldn't see it on M2 MacBook Air I use for testing. I strongly suspect the reason I couldn't see it there was the same reason that you and dialabrain can't see it. It's more of a versioning issue.

Perhaps the OP recently made that same change.

dialabrain wrote:

But different devices. Besides, which one is closer to what the source image actually is?

That's a very good question. In that previous case, the OP identified which image was correct. It's really tricky when colorspaces are involved.

dialabrain wrote:

Yes. Regardless of what the OP felt was correct, an image will look different on different devices. Unless everyone has the exact same set up, no way around it.

It's not supposed to. That's the whole point of things like colorspaces and profiles.

But that only works if everyone's monitor is calibrated and profiled to exactly the same settings.

If I were to send you an image tagged with my monitor's D50 profile (which I always use so the image can hold and reproduce the full color range of my monitor), and your monitor is set to 6500K, then it will not look the same. It can't. The 6500K calibration forces a very blue white, gray and black color balance that is always there. Whites will always be blue. The entire gray ramp will always be blue.

Here's what I mean. Which of these three is the "correct" one?