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Auto Update or Not to Sequoia for Pro Apps?

Conventional wisdom used to be that it was safer to do a clean install of the OS when using FCP etc.


A couple of years ago I asked a similar question and it appeared that most people agreed that clean installs were no longer required.


Is this still the case and if so what is the best way to do it . . . simply click the update button and have Sonoma converted to Sequoia or is there some better method?

Mac mini

Posted on Nov 1, 2024 2:06 AM

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Posted on Nov 1, 2024 2:18 AM

I still prefer to do a clean install. I migrate only the user data and reload the applications. I find that there will always be a few that get left between, that I don’t reload because I don’t use them or because they’ve become obsolete and aren’t updated for the new OS.


I’m sure the great majority of users simply update the OS with no ill effects.

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Nov 1, 2024 2:18 AM in response to Ian R. Brown

I still prefer to do a clean install. I migrate only the user data and reload the applications. I find that there will always be a few that get left between, that I don’t reload because I don’t use them or because they’ve become obsolete and aren’t updated for the new OS.


I’m sure the great majority of users simply update the OS with no ill effects.

Nov 1, 2024 5:13 AM in response to Ian R. Brown

I also tend to do a clean install. I did it every year, but when Sonoma came I was "lazy" and just upgraded in place. I had done a clean install with Ventura, and everything was working ok. I had no problems.

I also upgraded another Mac to Sequoia directly, but my main mac is still at Sonoma. I will finally replace this one (an Intel 16") with a new M4 Pro soon (yay!) and will migrate only the user accounts on the new mac - so that will be a clean install.


The most important thing is to have a good backup.

Nov 1, 2024 8:50 PM in response to Ian R. Brown

I take a different route by only using the OS version that came with the machine until it is time to update the Mac. I only do the incremental and security upgrades. Over the years I have found that most if not all of the new OS features are not needed for the kind of work that I do. Will be upgrading my 2020 M1 Mini to the M4 Pro Mini later this month so will have to learn the ins and outs of Sequoia.

Nov 2, 2024 4:05 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Unfortunately, Yes.


Do I use them, No.


I appear to be accumulating a lot of stuff I never use.


This is probably the oldest bit of photographic kit I have, which was given to me in 1961. No, it's not a camera (as most visitors think) but a Magic Lantern or Victorian slide projector.



My wife, not having my photographic sensitivities, has used it from time to time as a plant pot holder.


As if that's not bad enough she is urging me to get the new M4 mini to add to my collection of Macs that also do not get used . . .

Nov 2, 2024 7:01 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

I assumed that there wasn't enough space on the back but looking at it there obviously is plenty.


It could be to help with the cooling of the machine . . . maybe having the power button and its associated paraphernalia higher up would impact the airflow in such a confined space.


Daft though it may be, I can't see it giving owners sleepless nights


Nov 1, 2024 7:23 AM in response to BenB

BenB wrote:

I've used Migration Assistant on dozens and dozens of personal and business Macs over the past two decades and never had an issue. As a retied IT engineer, I think the "clean install" paradigm is very outdated and always was over rated.

Maybe, but at times we see users here complaining of problems, only to find from their Etrecheck reports that they have, on their Apple Silicon Macs, still software of El Capitan vintage. I find that it's ok to upgrade once or twice, but especially for those people that install everything anything and have no idea what they have, a clean install followed by Migration Assistant, but selecting only the user accounts, give a fresh start and leaves that old cruft. Still this year, we've seen quite a few people still having Silverlight, RealPlayer, or Soundflower, for example.

Nov 2, 2024 10:40 AM in response to Larrie Easterly

Lot of discussion about shutting down the computers at night. Some people do, others shut them down if they're away for any length of time. Institutions with multiple labs with 20 or so systems in each like to shut them down at night, which means they have to be booted during the day. They also often get shut down during the day when the computer changes uses. It's cleaner than just switching users. On a laptop it's easy of course, you just tap the keyboard to boot the system.


The phone and pad do have boot processes. Both the pad and the phone cane be powered down in the system software, or can be powered down using a combination of buttons.



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