How do I download photos from the iCloud in HEIF format and convert my library to large JPEG HEIF?

Having checked the comments in the Community pages regarding HEIF I notice comments that photos saved in the cloud are saved in the HEIf format. As HEIF format is maturing I pose a question. Can I download my photos from the cloud and keep them in HEIF format? That would save a great amount of memory and I would not have to convert my library to HEIF. I am happy with the HEIF format in JPEG I want to convert my library to Large JPEG HEIF format, What is the best way to do this now we are in 2025-4?


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Mac mini, macOS 15.4

Posted on Apr 2, 2025 1:42 PM

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Apr 7, 2025 7:47 AM in response to Gerry Harrison

First, iCloud Photos is a synchronization service. When you engage iCloud Photos on a device, then the Library on that device is kept exactly the same as the iCloud Photos Library. So, for instance, if you take a picture with your iPhone, it is added to the iPhone's Photos Library, copied to iCloud Photos Library, and then copied to the Photos Library on each of the other devices that you have connected. If you delete a picture on your Mac, then that picture is deleted at iCloud and on all the other devices. So you can't think of iCloud Photos as a backup service, since it backs up mistakes, and there's no way to undo them. Whatever you do with Photos on your device-- it happens everywhere else.


Keeping your Mac Photos Library on an external drive is absolutely normal, and there's no reason that an external Library can't synchronize with iCloud and your other devices. Here is some info:

Move your Photos library to save space on your Mac - Apple Support

The above says that the external drive must be formatted in either APFS format or Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format. Additionally, the drive can not have had Time Machine on it since it was formatted. There have been so many problems with using incompatible drives that the newest macOSs won't even allow a Library on a non-Mac formatted drive to open, since there is a chance of damaging the Photos database. 


There are three ways that using an external hard drive is different-- (1) For a laptop it's problematic to be plugging in and unplugging the Library while Photos is trying to use it (and this doesn't apply to you!) and (2) Spotlight won't find pictures in an external Library (but, of course, Photos' own search works fine.) and (3) For some crazy reason "gps location lookup" has problems. When you have GPS data (latitude and longitude) included with a picture, Photos goes to the internet and looks for the name of the place that's there-- but if the drive is external, this doesn't work. The GPS location is fine-- it just doesn't find the name. Any pictures that have already been looked up retain the name. I would think that this should be fixed sometime soon-- but not yet as far as I know.


A Mac can have multiple Libraries. I have a Library just for pictures from my Nikon. I edit and curate those, and I pick the best ones to put in my Favorites Library--the one that I have connected to iCloud. So only my favorite pictures are on my iPad and iPhone for me to look at and to share with friends and relatives. I also have Libraries for work pictures, for old family pictures, and for other special things-- favorites from these are also transferred to the Favorites Library.


If you have multiple Libraries, only one, the the System Library, can be connected to iCloud. The System Library is designated in Photos' Settings>General

Mine has "System Library" grayed out, because it is, already. A Library is connected to iCloud in Photos' Settings>iCloud

I don't use "Optimize" for Photos Libraries on my Mac, Optimize prevents making full local backups on Time Machine, etc. I do use "Optimize" on my iPhone.


Hmm-- I may have gotten carried away. Is this helpful?



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Apr 3, 2025 8:27 AM in response to Gerry Harrison

I'm not sure I get quite what you need or what you mean by "download." But if you use File>Export>Export Originals then the format of the export will be exactly the same as the original: jpg, TIFF, heic, or whatever. If you want edited versions, and you use File>Export>Export nn Photos, then you can choose the file type of the export.


Photos is a non-destructive editor, and the pictures you see don't exist as files like jpgs or heic until you actually export them-- "Export" creates the file. The edited versions don't actually take up storage-- what's stored are just the steps used in editing.


Does this help?



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Apr 7, 2025 1:14 AM in response to Richard.Taylor

Thank you Richard I understand your reply. I apologise for any confusion I may have caused, but what I am hoping to do is to reduce the size of my photo library, both in the cloud and on my Mac mini. My iCloud Photos use 86.8 GB storage. I could move the library to an ext hd but I lose synchronise ability. As I am a computer novice is there any advise that you could share regarding moving the photo lib from my Mac mini to ext hd?

I "guess" that would reduce the storage on iCloud too. Or do I have to delete iCloud items too. Thanks in andante for any help that you can provide or links to Apple similar items. Sincerely Gerry

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Apr 7, 2025 8:01 PM in response to Richard.Taylor

Thank you Richard I will read the link that you kindly sent. I now understand more fully what can be achieved and your example of multiple libraries would work well for me too. I apologise for the error that I missed :-(Thanks in "andante" for any help) "andante" was meant to be "advance" but spell check must have been in a musical mood.

Now I can say thanks for providing a thorough example that helped me a lot. I send my regards too.

Gerry

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Apr 8, 2025 7:46 AM in response to Gerry Harrison

If you are considering multiple Libraries, then you may want to use the trusted 3rd party app PowerPhotos ($30) This app makes is way easier to manipulate several Libraries. Copying pictures between Libraries, for instance, preserves album and folder organization-- something Photos doesn't do--Photos just copies pictures, not albums. There is a free trial version available. Probably everybody who uses multiple Libraries depends on PowerPhotos.

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