Sleep score has changed for the worse since iOS upgrade
Since the recent iOS upgrade my Sleep ratings have gotten significantly worse and my REM has almost disappeared in the Apple sleep app. Anyone else?
iPhone 14 Plus, iOS 26
Since the recent iOS upgrade my Sleep ratings have gotten significantly worse and my REM has almost disappeared in the Apple sleep app. Anyone else?
iPhone 14 Plus, iOS 26
Same experience on my side.
I'm using AutoSleep since the Apple Watch 5 came out, and it shows more realistic sleep results now on my Ultra 2, although the Apple Sleep app uses the same data from the watch, which has watchOS 26.2 installed.
I have started using AutoSleep instead and I find it reflects more of what I am experiencing in my sleep. This app doesn’t specify REM but identifies this type of sleep as “still/restful” but I believe it is similar to the REM definition. AutoSleep uses the Apple Watch data but the setting I use is not the Apple interpretation.
I don’t know what has happened with Apple’s new upgrade and the way it interprets my sleep but it is disheartening to get its results so I no longer look at it.
My sleep scores after 26.2 have dropped precipitously and I am no longer using the Apple Watch to track my sleep. I was told on ChatGPT that they changed the tracking protocol to be more conservative. It mistakenly rates some sleep as awake. I initially started tracking my sleep to see if I was getting 7-8 hours sleep even though I was occasionally awake for a while most nights. With 26.2 my sleep dropped to 4-5 hours per night and my awake time increased to 2.5 to 4.5 hours per night. I don't need to aggravation of this so I am ceasing to use the watch to track sleep. I have seen sleep improvement the first two nights without the watch on my wrist. It seems to me giving people worse ratings and tracking might not be the best way to be people to use your watch.
Readers--
if this were a pervasive issue, the forums would be swamped -- completely overwhelmed with users complaining about it. That is not the case.
My watch reported more deep sleep last night than it has ever reported. As far as I can tell, this feature on MY setup is working great, which suggests there is not a pervasive issue with this version of the software itself.
When you have a complaint that SEEMS to be a software version issue, but others are NOT having such problems, the issue most likely lies elsewhere.
That is why I posted my watch model, in hopes of other posting theirs and possibly finding some other correlation, such as the problem following a particular model watch. My band is a fabric band with velcro closure.
It seems to me the "weak link" in recording correct sleep data is having the band adequately tight to get good readings, but not so tight as to wake you up..
it would seem prudent at this point to start calling Apple Support, and see if they have anything clever to say, collected from other callers or from some internal documents we are not privy to.
<< unlikely to go back to using it unless Apple updates to tracking protocol. >>
Readers and responders here are all other users like you. Most Apple employees are expressly prohibited from responding here, so there are likely very few Apple employees reading these forums.
Readers want you to have the best solutions for your situation as possible, regardless of what kinds of devices you decide to use (or not use).
if you want Apple employees to consider your situation, you should post your thoughts here:
I called Apple Support prior to posting. They were helpful but the final conclusion was the watch was fine and it must be me. There is a psychological element here. Many people suffer from insomnia at various levels and times. That is why I started to use my Apple Watch to track sleep in the first place - to determine how I really slept. I was pleasantly surprised that I could be awake for times at night and still get 7-8 hours sleep. I would feel fine under those circumstances. That is why I was so surprised when the times changed so much when I switched to 26.2. The psychological benefit disappeared. I was disturbed with what my watch was sharing on my sleep so decided to quit using it. My sleep has improved and unlikely to go back to using it unless Apple updates to tracking protocol.
I agree with the assertions noted on the impact of this tech for those with insomnia. I no longer use this part of the watch. Before the upgrade, I was still able to get nightly "scores" on my sleep, which seemed reasonable. After the upgrade, the daily sleep bargraph disappeared, and the sleep ringchart bubbled up...with "No Data" to report. Not wanting to believe that my sleep had devolved to "No Data" I tried to get any sleep info out of my watch and software upgrade. No luck. A call into the Apple Support line was not totally unpleasant, but it was not fruitful. The frustrating part of this was that the old Sleep protocol prior to 26, seemed to be working well. Well enough that I didn't challenge the validity of the numbers. My question to Apple would be "If this new and improved version of the Sleep tracking capabilities is better, what can be said about the old version...was it just producing inaccurate "harmless" sleep scores.
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I have noticed less REM but the biggest issue is reporting that I’m have been awake while I’ve actually been asleep and my deep sleep periods have completely disappeared.
I am sorry for your experience, but I too have come to the conclusion to not have faith in the sleep tracking capabilities of the watch as promoted. Perhaps Apple should choose another less damaging/more reliable feature to sell on the device.
My initial reaction to your post was to write: "You're Dreaming".
...but that is obviously the reverse of what is being reported.
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There was notification is the upgrade for iOS 26.2 that suggested sleep scoring had changed.
But detecting less REM sleep has not been reported here.
It is not likely to be a software error -- you may in fact be dreaming less these last few nights. By fiddling with the Health app on your phone, you can compare current to Average REM amounts over time, weekly, monthly, or 6 month-ly.
Thanks for your reply. Haha to your initial reaction.
I have compared my REM over the days, weeks, months and found a stark reduction in REM since the upgrade 26.2 (just on the REM) while I am having fairly good recall of complex dreams etc. Just now I have unpaired and re-paired my Apple Watch to phone. I’ll see if that helped or not.
I've had a similar trend in my sleep tracking since the upgrade to 26.2, my sleep tracking has devolved to "No Data" since the upgrade. I've upgraded, rebooted, unpaired, re-paired, still "No Data". I've talked with tech (can't remember what level) before recently, and she had no answers to the "No Data" problem. It's possible that my sleep has actually deteriorated to the point of "No Data", but wouldn't the watch track a low score...even "0" rather than "No Data "? "No Data" implies to me that the watch is not tracking. What do you think?
I have the similar issue on my Ultra 2 since watchOS 26
Sitting and reading the newspaper on my iPad after breakfast is seen as a nap, as well as getting to bed early in the evening, just because I'm sitting in front of the computer streaming content, without hardly moving in my chair.
Or checking the time on my watch in the night, turning around after that and falling asleep right away is counted as being awake for 20-60min.
watchOS 26.2 showed some improvements for two nights and then continued to give false readings.
My 3rd party sleep tracking, which uses the same data from the Health App, is showing more realistic results.
All effected users should all let Apple know about this issue by using the Feedback link, I have already submitted mine.
My REM sleep does not appear remarkably different from before, and I have never seen the "no data" report.
This leads me to believe there is some OTHER factor in play than the version of iOS or watch OS.
I think part of the problem is that more people struggle with their sleep than Apple seems to be aware of, and the fact that they would tinker with people's health by rolling out an imperfect sleep tracker is insensitive to say the least. Many, myself included, perhaps rely on sleep scores more than we should, especially if they prove to be...unreliable.
Sleep score has changed for the worse since iOS upgrade