A ton of design issues / bugs on Tahoe

Everyone posting in this thread ... these forums are user-to-user, they are not Apple feedback. It does no good to report bugs, feature requests or complaints here.

If you have suggestions, complaints or other feedback about Apple products - including macOS Tahoe - the correct place to report them is Product Feedback - Apple

You really did not expect a point 0 (26.0) release of the operating system to be free of bugs or oversights did you?

Apple had a certain amount of time to get the introductory version of the operating system released and very likely has a long list of triaged fixes destined for several future operating system point updates. Just be patient or use the feedback mechanism offered elsewhere in these threads.

Feel free to send Apple feedback.

Feedback - macOS - Apple

IMHO the new theme was not very well thought out. Among many poor decisions was increasing the radius of the rounded corners. Besides being visually unappealing (IMHO), you end up with this:

That's the corner cutting off the scroll bar of the System Settings window. Maybe the designers decided it was okay, or maybe they didn't consider it. Either way, it comes across as amateurish.

I also find window edge elements - title bar, status bar, scroll bars, etc. - to be a bit too large, resulting in a "chunky" appearance that looks imbalanced, somewhat dwarfing the folder elements, not to mention using that much more screen real estate. And moving the folder name to the left...why? Especially when the information of the status bar is still centered. It just looks off, having all of the title bar elements on one side.

I've come across some non-theme bugs as well, although maybe they have to do with apps needing to be updated after updating the OS to Tahoe. For example, Firefox randomly forgot all of the autocompletes I relied on for frequently visited websites, but not immediately after the OS update, it was several restarts later. (I did not change anything with Firefox in that time.) Sometimes Linear Mouse would not launch (I have it as a startup item, but even if I try to launch it manually, it can take multiple tries). And if I have multiple browser windows open, sometimes one window would become inaccessible by mouse click or by Cmd-` until I switch to a different app and back again. I regret updating from Sequoia, which I already didn't like due to the iPhonification of the UI since Ventura.

I saw nowhere where OP said that they expected there to be no bugs... they're just pointing out the issues, which is warranted because this update indeed has a lot of bugs...

What good does it do to point them out here. We can't do anything about them.

I guess if you are looking for confirmation so you can file a bug report, that might be a reason, but it doesn't appear to be the case.

Here, when visiting websites with content wider than the browser window (for example, tables with many columns), horizontal scrolling bar does not show up on macOS Tahoe 26.0.1 (25A362).

I've tested on Chrome, Brave, Firefox, Safari, Atlas and Comet.

The horizontal scrolling bar only works on 50% size windows, not in any other size.

rdcubo wrote:

Here, when visiting websites with content wider than the browser window (for example, tables with many columns), horizontal scrolling bar does not show up on macOS Tahoe 26.0.1 (25A362).

I've tested on Chrome, Brave, Firefox, Safari, Atlas and Comet.

On what sites? Assuming you have System Settings > Appearance > Windows > Show scroll bars set to "Always", the horizontal scroll bar shows for me as long as the page is wide enough.

Firefox…

There are many many Mac users like me - fully in the Mac ecosystem, multi-hour a day users, dependent on Mac for our work and personal lives. The 'good' that comes from these critical conversations by proper experts like you is to allow users like me to make an informed decision about, in this case, whether to 'upgrade' to OS Tahoe.

What I read here is, DON'T. So I will sit tight for a few more weeks or months, until this forum becomes more positive about Tahoe.

For which, many thanks.

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What I read here is, DON'T. So I will sit tight for a few more weeks or months, until this forum becomes more positive about Tahoe.

That never happens. The entire point of this forum is for people having issues to seek help.

Tahoe is perfectly fine. Make a back up. Male two. Upgrade. If there's a real issue for you, roll back with a back up. If not, go on with your life.

What I read here is, DON'T. So I will sit tight for a few more weeks or months, until this forum becomes more positive about Tahoe.

You make decisions based on one-off problems caused by third-party software?

I have no fondness for the “Liquid Glass” (isn’t all glass liquid?), but otherwise have no problems with it.

I have great respect for experts. In my own field, I am one myself. But with tech, I'm a 'late adopter'. I use an iPhone 13 mini, and a 2021 MBP 14" running Sonoma. I don't have time, interest or competence to debug - or frankly, to learn my way around - a new OS. When Apple sends me messages suggesting I upgrade the OS, I come here to see what people are saying. I'll upgrade when there's a security issue.

. When Apple sends me messages suggesting I upgrade the OS, I come here to see what people are saying.

And then you’ll base your opinion on people who have some sort of conflicting software or are just whining because apple changed or removed a feature that they cannot possibly live without or they just don’t like the look of it.

This is a user to user tech-support forum. People don’t come here to tell you how great the new one is. On the contrary, they love to tell you how great the old one was. A year ago the same people would have told you how horrible Sequoia is and how great Sonoma was. It’s like shampoo instructions, “rinse, repeat.”

I Beg to disagree with you that people do similar complaining of issues from pervioius OS. The problems are when you are using features that help you expedite yourwork and those are no longer availabie and it is costing you more time. That cost you more money to run your business. Yes its great at times to have new features. But when features are removed and featrues are not working the way they should and cause you to spend more time doing a task is not good.

I agree I do not like the rounded corners. What apple needs to address is gray color lettering. Words are meant to be read so make them all black. Let the users decide what is important to read. Also the Federal Governement has clarity legability requirement that the backgound and letters have to be very distiguisable to read for those that have impared vision. Please be respectful of those with visual issues and quit using gray lettes.

Wier73 wrote:

I Beg to disagree with you that people do similar complaining of issues from pervioius OS. The problems are when you are using features that help you expedite yourwork and those are no longer availabie and it is costing you more time. That cost you more money to run your business. Yes its great at times to have new features. But when features are removed and featrues are not working the way they should and cause you to spend more time doing a task is not good.

It’s just whining when you’re complaining to people who can do nothing to change the outcome. If Tahoe is missing features that you can’t manage to survive without, contact Apple. There is not a single person here that can bring that feature back to you.