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System Data over 1 TB – How to slim down?

Disk Full.

Settings reports that System Data is over 1TB on my MacBook Pro M1 2021 with 2TB SSD under MacOS Sequoia, with File vault enabled.

➝ Disk Utility only sees only one TimeMachine APFS snapshot with ~11 GB.

➝ Spotlight is innocent: .Spotlight-V100 folder is 3.4GB, CoreSpotlight folder 1.5GB.

➝ OmniDiskSweeper sees only 789 GB in files.


Ist there a way to remedy this situation, or do I have to buy a new Mac with 4TB SSD?


MacBook Pro 16″, macOS 15.1

Posted on Nov 22, 2024 2:23 AM

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Nov 22, 2024 2:47 AM in response to wintifrosch

One of the few accurate reporting areas in macOS is Disk Utilities


Most of the Other Reporting methods ( space Used versus Free ) depend on Spotlight which is good for finding files, application etc


Not so good for actual Spaced Used


System Data is a collection of everything Spotlight can not needly categorize into known categories


As for managing System Data ?


You can't manage the contents of this category. The contents are managed by macOS, and the category varies in size depending on the current state of your Mac.


There is Purgeable Space and there is Empty Space.


They are not one and the same thing.


Purgeable Space which is Controlled by the Operating System. When the Operating Systems decides the computer needs additional Empty Space, it will move a portion of the Purgeable to Empty space


AFAIK - there is no User Actions to hasten this transition from Purgeable to Empty Space


It can day or longer before this will occur.


You may consider from the follow links


View APFS snapshots in Disk Utility on Mac


Locate backups of your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch - Apple Support


If there a Suite of Adobe Applications  used on this computer ?


They may create some very large cache files that can be removed. Though, the Adobe cache files will be recreated as the Applications needs them.


https://helpx.adobe.com/ca/premiere-pro/kb/clear-cache.html


The same clearing of System Cache files can be achieved by booting into Safe Mode


They will be recreated as the System Requires 


Nov 23, 2024 1:22 AM in response to wintifrosch

wintifrosch wrote:

You tell me …
this is a flaw in the process of migrating TimeMachine Backups to new Hardware, and …
2. there is no way to slim down System Data but by wiping my SSD and start from scratch, without using my TimeMachine backup?

Yes, there is a way to " Start over from Scratch "


Apple makes this process as easy and doing the same thing as doing it from iPhones and iPads


For Apple Silicon computer >> Use Disk Utility to erase a Mac with Apple silicon.


Using Erase All Content and Setting will Not Touch the Operating System .


The operating system itself will remain interacted


I usually suggest that if you what to Migrate from a recent TM Backup


To Only Migrate your User Account and Nothing More during the Initial Setup Assist process

Nov 22, 2024 3:29 PM in response to PRP_53

Did upgrade every year.

It is possible that the SystemData did grow each time, but this is hard to verify now.


I always have an additional Admin account besides my personal account. But they persist after an upgrade. However, after setting up this MacBookPro M1 2021 using a TimeMachine backup, additional accounts from my previous MacBook Pro were not migrated to the new laptop.


You tell me …

  1. this is a flaw in the process of migrating TimeMachine Backups to new Hardware, and …
  2. there is no way to slim down System Data but by wiping my SSD and start from scratch, without using my TimeMachine backup?

Nov 22, 2024 5:35 AM in response to PRP_53

@PRP_53 Thanks for writing back!

I tried booting in Safe mode before. Didn't help.

I was hoping for the system to lighten the System Data, but no success for the last 14 days.


1TB SystemData is ridiculous. «When the Operating Systems decides the computer needs additional Empty Space, it will move a portion of the Purgeable to Empty space.» So basically the MacOS programmers decide when I have to replace my computer and buy a 4TB Mac, even thou I only need 788.9 TB, including all programs caches, backups and MacOS-Code?

Nov 22, 2024 6:58 AM in response to wintifrosch

Apple Silicon M1 MBP from 2021 right.


How many upGrades ( as in moving from say macOS 12 Monterey ) to macOS 15 Sequoia has this machine experienced in its short life time. ?


It is possible, the System Data Volume, has grown over each newer version of macOS that has been installed ?


Have there been Other User Account( s ), other than your current Admin Account, ever been or been removed from the computer ?


Removing a User Account and not deleting the User Account Folder during this process could account for portions of System Data issue ??

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