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Final Cut Pro 11 issues on M1 Max Macbook Pro (transform effects, audio effects, freezing)

  • I have been having these issue through many different versions of Final Cut Pro X, and they have persisted into the Final Cut Pro 11 Update (I am always using the newest OS and FCPX version, and I am using an M1 Max Macbook Pro with 64GB unified memory)


  • When attempting to copy/paste transform effects of a clip to multiple other clips, it either doesn't work, or only applies the effects to 1 clip, and nothing is applied to the other clips. So I am forced to paste the effects to each clip individually which is extremely time consuming.
  • audio effects sometimes do not work within the timeline. If they do work within the timeline, when I export the video, they are often not there at all. 
    • my workaround for this issue has been to export the video as SOURCE Apple Prores 422 with Linear PCM audio (which successfully applies audio effects in the exported video), and then bring that video into the timeline to use it's pre-exported audio track in the final export (which is most often h.264, multi-pass, ACC, rec.709, .mp4)
  • the program often freezes up, and I need to force quit and restart Final Cut Pro


I have only been able to find 1 or 2 other people with any of these individual issue online, and so far I have seen no solutions. The bugs constantly persist through every update, including this update to Final Cut Pro 11


I have tried resetting FCP to original settings, I have tried fully uninstalling and reinstalling FCP, and all of the issues still persist.


I have no clue what to do, and it seems that most people don't have these issues and are unable to recreate the problems.


PLEASE CAN SOMEBODY HELP!!


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MacBook Pro 16″, macOS 15.0

Posted on Nov 16, 2024 12:52 PM

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Nov 17, 2024 2:09 AM in response to shazzyzang

Since you are experiencing a lot of problems that are not common, and continue across different versions, this suggests that there may be something specific to your system that is playing a part. Often there are third party poorly programmed or downright malicious software that can cause trouble.


Please run Etrecheck and post its full report here.

Use the “additional text” button and paste the report into the text box.

Nov 17, 2024 2:52 PM in response to shazzyzang

I see 3 things in the report. Others may find additional items.


1 - The system drive is full. It needs a bare minimum of 10% free space. For a 2TB drive that's 200GB. Ideally you want 15-20%, or 300-400TB free.


2 - NordVPN antivirus/antimalware. If this runs continuously, it could be a problem. The recommendation around here is to use Malwarebytes and only run it on demand.


3 - You have the Google updater and keystone software. The keystone agents are known to cause issues with the ProApps. Follow the instructions at https://chromeisbad.com to remove all the cruft Google installs. Simply removing Chrome.app is not enough. You may need to reinstall FCP from a backup or the AppStore.

Nov 17, 2024 5:12 PM in response to terryb

here's the 2nd etrecheck report. i actually tried fully uninstalling NordVPN and reinstalling without activating the threat protection, because i don't actually use that feature. and I cleared up as much space as I could immediately. and I went through and removed all of the google/keystone files and uninstalled chrome, and reinstalled FCP 11.


Jan 3, 2025 6:41 PM in response to terryb

by "the issues are still there" I mean that all of the bugs that I described earlier are still present. (don't have time to record a video)


  • when I copy keyframed attributes from one thing (for example a title), and attempt to paste it to multiple other things, it does not apply the effect properly to all of the other things (for example multiple titles). Usually I am doing titles that match up with the audio, and am attempting to make a title "pop" effect using "scale" keyframes. But it also applies to other scenarios. Usually one random title will pop properly and none of the others will do anything, because the keyframes have been applied WAY further down on the timeline for some reason (usually so far that the actual title does not extend on the timeline that far. and yes, I've also tried it while selecting the "maintain timing" option)
  • When using certain audio effects, the effect has sometimes not functioned properly, and sometimes doesn't apply itself within Final Cut Pro, and if it DOES, it then often does not apply itself within the final exported file
  • FCP often freezes, and I have to force quit
  • FCP crashes more than it used to


when testing, I don't have any external hubs or second monitors or keyboards/mouse/trackpad, etc. Only the MBP and external SSD


And yeah, I did all that you said there. If something is failing in the machine, why would it only seem to effect Final Cut Pro? I haven't noticed issues in any other programs. Also, is there anything that can be done if something is failing?


It's unfortunate if that's the case because I think this issue started a couple months after purchasing this computer, but I never attempted to troubleshoot originally because I assumed the issues would be fixed in future FCP/OS updates

Jan 6, 2025 12:11 PM in response to shazzyzang

In Finder select menu Go>Go to Folder, and enter ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports


Save any Final Cut crash reports to another place. Then examine the subfolder "Retired." Likewise save any Final of those Cut crash reports to another place. Then, upload all of those to a file-sharing site I can access.


If FCP freezes, requiring you to force quit, first take a spindump:


  • In Activity Monitor, select Final Cut Pro
  • Do CTRL+OPT+CMD+S and enter your system password when asked
  • It will take about 10-15 sec to create the spindump
  • In the upper-right corner of the spindump screen, press the "Save" button and give it a filename
  • Upload that to a file-sharing site I can access


In general, I would not run Monterey or an old version of FCP, but 10.8.1 would be OK. Even if the problems seem to happen on newer versions, those are better overall. Plus any fix in FCP would be based on the new version's code.

Jan 12, 2025 6:10 AM in response to shazzyzang

When FCP freezes, please take a spindump of the FCP process, then post that on a file-sharing site I can access. Procedure:


  • Run Activity Monitor and select FCP
  • Do CTRL+OPT+CMD+S
  • Enter password if prompted
  • When it finishes the spindump, click the upper-right button to save as a text file
  • Put it on a file- sharing site I can access and post that link here



Nov 16, 2024 1:16 PM in response to shazzyzang

after examining closer, it appears that the issue with transform effects is only when there are keyframed effects, and it appears that the keyframes are still applied to the clip, but way further down on the timeline (even though the clip does not currently extend that far), and even if i select to maintain keyframe timing, I still have the issue.

Dec 31, 2024 11:04 AM in response to shazzyzang

UPDATE: Not good news. I got fed up with nothing working and used the "Erase all Content and Settings" feature to completely wipe my computer after backing up my user data to an external SSD (didn't solve the bugs) then I reinstalled the Operating System (still didn't solve the bugs), so now I am left with a totally "fresh" computer that has been reset to all factory settings, but the bugs and issues still persist within Final Cut Pro 11.


So at this point if anyone has any theories about what the issue could be, or any steps I could take from here, that would be greatly appreciated, but as far as I am aware, there isn't really anything else I can do...

Dec 31, 2024 5:00 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

I haven't migrated anything from my backup yet. I've left it totally clean while i'm testing it out.


I contacted apple support today and they were stumped too, but they suggested i could try installing the original operating system that the computer shipped with (monterey), and if it works then i would at least known that it's an issue with the OS and/or FCP.


I downloaded a version of Monterey from the app store, but i need to go out to pick up a flash drive or something to create a bootable drive, because for some reason there isn't an option on apple silicon to download a previous OS using a recovery startup


So i will see how that goes tomorrow

Dec 31, 2024 5:22 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

The issues i've been having have persisted through multiple FCP and OS updates.


I was under the impression that if i try to download FCP it will download the last compatible version?


I think their idea was to test out an old OS and FCP to see if it works which would then at least show that it's some issue with the updates of either the OS and/or FCP


To be honest i wasn't sure it made total sense either because it doesn't seem to be a widespread issue from what i can see online, so part of me is doubtful that it has to do with OS or FCP updates, but i guess i'll see.


Even if it is, i doubt they'll ever fix it in an update because i've had these issues for over a year

Dec 31, 2024 6:01 PM in response to shazzyzang

Since you've been having these issues across OS updates and FCP versions, it really sounds like old, conflicting or corrupt software is present. I know you said you said you reinstalled the OS and did an Erase Content and Settings.


A way to test if it's a software thing, as I suggested earlier in this thread, is to install a fresh macOS on an external SSD, boot from it, create a new admin user, then only install a fresh copy of FCP from the AppStore. Create a new library and see how things behave.

Jan 3, 2025 4:41 PM in response to terryb

So I tested installing a fresh macOS (Sequoia) on an external drive, and doing everything else you mentioned, and the issues are still there even when booting from the external drive.


I also attempted to install Monterey (the internet and apple support said it is the OS my laptop shipped with) on a different external drive and see if that made a difference, but was unable to get a successful install for some reason.


What I then did was attempt to use Disk Utility's "First Aid" feature on the computer, just to see what would happen... nothing. Then I fully erased my computer again, but this time using Disk Utility, instead of the "Erase All Content and Settings" feature. After doing that, the computer had me install Sonoma (maybe that was what the computer shipped with?? can't remember when exactly I bought this, but that's possible. The most recent OS I had was Sequoia), and I tested everything again... the issues are still there.


Not sure what else I can do at this point. to me it seems like it is likely an issue with apple's OS/FCP, but I don't know why more people don't seem to have these bugs. Idk if it's even possible that my computer could somehow have an internal hardware issue that would cause this, especially considering the bugs weren't there when I first got it


I also tested out my old 2016 MacBook Pro that was running Monterey, and an older version of FCP X, and had no bugs

Final Cut Pro 11 issues on M1 Max Macbook Pro (transform effects, audio effects, freezing)

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