Portrait type photos are corrupted (grey area appear) when transferring from iPhone to PC

When using the bulk transfer from iPhone to PC (Windows 10) with "Keep Originals" settings in Photos, the imported portrait (IMG_Exxxx) photos are corrupted and they are imported as HEIC as well as the originals.

Few months ago with the above settings, the portrait photos were transferred as IMG_Exxxx.JPG instead of HEIC format. There is no any other issue with the normal HEIC photos, only with the portrait type photos.

If I change to the "Automatic" setting when transferring to PC in the Photos application, the portrait images are transferred properly in IMG_E.jpg, but in this scenario all other HEIC photos are not rotated properly and the EXIF data can be lost.


I prefer using the "Keep Originals" settings when transferring from iPhone to PC, but it seems that there is a bug when you are importing the Portrait type of photos that should be copied as JPG and rotated properly regardless of the "Keep Originals" settings.


Thank you,


Peter

iPhone 11, iOS 14

Posted on Nov 1, 2020 1:52 AM

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Posted on Feb 20, 2022 12:43 PM

@Ryder_del_Fin, Refer my answer on the other post about this issue in Apple Communities: Portrait Mode Photos Corrupted (Gray Bar) - Apple Community


To summarise though:


  • yes, I'm using the Windows iCloud app, not a web browser (although there's a partial workaround to the download size for unedited photos in a web browser, it doesn't help us with the grey bar issue).
  • you can change the name of the folder where iCloud saves photos. I've called mine "Download" in the location you saw in my screenshot.
  • no, using an external drive doesn't help. Not sure why you are seeing a difference?
  • The only workarounds I found were to use a 3rd party cloud backup tool (I tested OneDrive, Dropbox and iDrive and both work to get the full resolution edited photo)


Other important points to note:


  • the issue is not just "Portrait" mode photos. Can't remember what setting I used for the below landscape photo, but clearly the grey bar occurred.



Note: My reason for mentioning the HEIF extension was that I was just adding to @davidg82's post to explain which extension on MS Store to use.   It's not really relevant to the grey bar issue - just friendly advice because someone was saying they didn't know how to display (valid) .heic files on Windows.  FWIW, I have Windows 10 and it certainly didn't recognize .heic files by default. I needed to install the extensions to be able to display the photo in an .heic file.  Based on my Google'ing, WIndows 11 doesn't support .heic out of the box either - you need to install the extension for it too. If you don't have the extension installed, you can still open the file with 3rd party tools that support .heic, or you can open it to examine it at byte level with an editor that supports doing so. As you're adamant photos with a grey bar are just mis-named jpeg files, it sounds like you've probably done that.

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May 1, 2021 6:54 AM in response to Mabuse777

In order to keep my Photos backed up as I go, (since I can no longer use the USB cord to my laptop to transfer the edited/ portrait iPhone photos - my preferred method of MANY years)

I am making albums on my phone - uploading album to Google Photos - then downloading that album to my laptop finally deleting the photos off my phone.

I am getting two back ups this way - google photos and then unzipping to my laptop

I do NOT use iCloud, as it is not a true back up.

THIS METHOD DOES preserve the edits to the photos and you only get the final 'E" copy of the photo uploaded to google and then down to laptop.

Google album only shows the desired copy of the photo. ( not multiple like you see using USB cord)

Sep 13, 2021 8:57 AM in response to S314-EsPi

Almost a year later and this is still not fixed! Many photos that I didn't catch and deleted off my phone are ruined. Yes, the workaround is to transfer "Automatic" as JPG, but I thought we are transitioning to HEIC.


Any "edited" photo from the iPhone transferred to PC will have this issue. The file name starts with IMG-E***. Affects photos you applied some edit to on the iPhone, or portrait mode.



Nov 27, 2021 3:27 AM in response to Sebastien7196

Hey all, this is the update from 27.11.2021. So, I'm still running iOS 14.8.1 on my iPhone11Pro. I have Windows 11 with the most recent version of iTuenes, as well as the HEIC and HEVC codecs from the Microsoft App Store. Greygate is still an Apple feature (tm) on the Portrait Mode photos.


I recently found out that other photos (non Portrait Mode) also get corrupted from Greygate.


Looking at the files, they have the same size on disk and only the bit depth changes from 32bit (good) to 24bit (corrupted).


Anyway, I've updated my workflow to the following.


Instead of selecting and saving on iCloud Drive the Portrait Mode photos, now I open the Photos app, goto Library, on the (...) menu I filter by "Edited" photos, and finally save them to iCloud Drive. Note that this catches many useless edited screenshots and all.


G'luck everyone. Maybe on iOS16 this is fixed ;-) who knows.

Feb 16, 2022 11:58 PM in response to S314-EsPi

Hope this helps !


If windows does not support the file format you would need to get an extension or codec that can play that format maybe from Microsoft store. I have not tested the extension out, so check out the reviews they do have others as well just search the extension.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/heic-image-viewer-converter/9n8k5qxzsjnv#activetab=pivot:overviewtab


The Image Extension enables Windows 10 devices to read and write files that use the iphones unique format. You will still need to associate the extension with the photo viewer, or you can just download a photo app that supports the extension.


Apple doesn't supply your windows computer. Thats why it works when you import using "compatible" which says it all right there. The key word being "compatible" it slipped past me before too .... windows imports them, but cant read them properly because its not programmed for it most likely, which im surprised it opened/imported it at all .

more info

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/photos-app-video-editor-error-can-t-view-this-file-type-173ae0be-2b7d-d413-589e-84ccca0de02e


Upload to onedrive then re-download may also work with google drive and icloud apple gives 5GB of icloud storage log into icloud.com access photos then download what you want, or try and upload photos directly from the phone while logged into icloud.com on safari browser upload the photo to icloud drive then go to

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/upload-heif-and-hevc-photos-and-videos-to-onedrive-96d137f5-369b-4d99-9db8-523c736da425


change default photo app

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/change-default-programs-in-windows-10-e5d82cad-17d1-c53b-3505-f10a32e1894d


Apple did provide software that you can use for photos if its set up automatically sync check it from time to time sometimes it may lose the connection to apple servers or you may leave your computer off for long periods of time which since the computers off do data is being transmitted, so whatever you do what show on the computer until you connect back to the internet, so it can send the info to your computer from the server that had the info the phone had on it....see apple llooking out for yall and microsoft is the problem

Set up and use iCloud for Windows - Apple Support




The video goes over associating the file type with the apps, also changing the default apps



Jan 14, 2021 10:12 PM in response to S314-EsPi


APPLE ENGINEERS PLEASE OPEN A JIRA TO TRACK THIS


BUG - SOFTWARE ISSUE WHILE COPYING EDITED IMAGES IN KEEP ORIGINALS IN HEIC FORMAT TO WINDOWS


This is not a hardware issue.


Edited images in format IMG_Exxxx.HEIC are corrupted in 14.3 version on iPhone11


It's **** easy to repro. Just take a photo and edit it and use Keep Originals.


While copying to Windows you will see GREY AREA


If you upload same edited image to icloud in FILES there is no GREY AREA and even file size is different.


Feb 3, 2021 5:20 AM in response to d2mags

This is not a hardware, nor a uniquely iOS 14 issue. It has been happening to me with my old iPhone 8 from at least iOS13.6 version and it continues with every iOS update on an iPhone 12 Prom Max now (iOS 14.4). As others posted, it only happens to the edited pics and portraits (regardless of editing). None of the suggested workarounds made a difference and reaching to Apple support was as fruitless as ever (direct comments to Microsoft).

Jan 8, 2022 8:02 AM in response to AussieLyndal

We were already pretty close.


But the settings of the photos must not be set to "keep the originals". The correct setting is "automatic". (As already before correctly stated from Lesterw you have to click on "most compatible" in the settings of the camera). Anyway, this combination of settings has solved my problem.


I guess that the setting "keep the original" limits the size of the file during the transfer process.



Feb 18, 2022 11:59 PM in response to davidg82

To read HEIC files on Windows 10 it needs the "HEIF Image Extensions" to be downloaded and installed from the Microsoft store. Just search for "HEIF Image Extensions" in the store. It is free.

I have installed it on my Windows 10 machines and they can read HEIC files just fine.


There is also "HEVC Video Extensions" for videos. It is not free however. Costs about a dollar (depending on your country/currency).


Once you install this, you can read the files. You will then see the grey bar though. It is not caused by some bug in the HEIF extension though. That is some issue in iOS itself which Apple have not deigned to fix (yet).

Dec 6, 2020 7:18 PM in response to jo3553

Hi Jo,


Sadly yet I haven't heard anything from them, they don't even call you back when they promise it; I'm still waiting for the conclusion of the ticket so I guess they're "still working on it". I'll give them a call tomorrow and I'll let you know.

On the other hand, you're absolutely right! I was taking a look at mi photo album from Dec 2019 and I have portraits as IMG_EXXXX.HEIC blur background and so on, no issues with those, unfortunately I didn't realize about this "bug" and I've imported so many HEIC portraits with the gray line at the bottom along OCT-NOV 2020 ... I'm so upset about it.


Correct, the only workaround we have for now is going back to JPEG but you'll not get the benefits of P3 gamut, 12-bit image, deep fusion and... Smart HDR (?) Oh boy, I'll love to hear something about this from someone at Apple who actually cares.


Best regards,


Walter

Jan 7, 2021 9:14 AM in response to S314-EsPi

I also see this issue in LATEST IOS 14.0 also while transferring normal edited photos in KEEP ORIGINAL. There is a grey line at the bottom of every image which is EDITED.


For debug if same image is copied to icloud in FILES and then downloaded on PC, the EDITED image is fine.


This means APPLE is doing some logic since the EDITED image uploaded to FILES in ICLOUD and COPIED to PC doesn't have a same size also.


Ideally when we say KEEP ORIGINALS then EDITED PHOTOS COPIED to ICLOUD IN FILES and COPIED to PC MUST HAVE SAME SIZE and SAME CHECKSUM



Mar 3, 2021 8:43 PM in response to S314-EsPi

This is a well documented issue that multiple users, including myself are experiencing. I have an iPhone 12 Pro and am using Windows 10. Both have the latest software updates. (iOS 14.4)


The issue is for all portrait photos, which are in the format "IMG_E###.HEIC".


iOS photo settings are set to "Keep Originals". If I set this to "Automatic", there are other issues and the large documents do not copy over. Also, keeping originals is the preferred option as this preserves all the background data and features.


I am shocked that Apple hasn't fixed this issue! I was here a month and a half ago trying to figure out what the issue was. I thought that time would heal all wounds, but clearly not with Apple.


Is this a form of soft racketeering to "encourage" aka force the Apple ecosystem on Windows users? Maybe people will assume this is a Windows problem and the only solution is to switch to a Mac? This must be some next generation antitrust. Sadly I think this is the logic and the reason this is such low priority. But if we make it clear this is an Apple bug, and not Windows, maybe they will prioritize a fix.


This is a problem even on high end Apple devices in 2021 - HP in 2006 didn't even set the bar this low lol

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